How tall was thingol

It's said that Trolls were twice the height of men. How long would that make them on average? That is indeed interesting It might have been a mistake on the translation, or perhaps the usual elves were much shorter than the great ones like Galadriel. Also, I'd like to note that it is not that men no longer reach heights of 8 feet Men are growing taller every generation at least on the developed countries children being usually a couple inches taller than their parents!

No, hobbits were said to be about four feet I think. The men of Islidur's army following the Disaster of the Gladden fields towered over the largest Orcs as stated in Unfinished Tales and I believe they were up to 6'2,6'3 in height as the orcs would try to jump on them and drag them down, exchanging a two for one in battle. Is it possible that for Thingol being the tallest of the children of Eru, it was only referring to when he was around in the first age, and that some later passed him in height.

This would also then be true of Tuor, as those who went to Numenor were said to have increased in stature. If Tuor was the tallest man ever, he must hav been a giant compared to the other men at the time, who were less than the average Numenorean height of 6'4". I think that may be a translation error I think that those heights are given when comparing Hobbits to Dwarves. As for Elf men in general Now this would be ok if Celeborn was not also known as "the Tall" mind you I have always suspected that the Celeborn the Wise was an ironic soubriquet so this may be the same although his name indicates height "silver tall" rather than silver tree if I remember correctly.

However a man can still be noticeably tall and the same height as the tallest woman. I think I remember reading that the Teleri were in general of lesser stature than the noldor but of course their leade was tallest of all.

Perhaps great height was a feature of the ruling house? Even at the un-elvish stature of 5' 10" Cate Blanchett is tall for a woman, the average height being about 5' 4" or 5' 5" I'm 5'6" most girls I know are as tall as or shorter than me.

If Elwe Thingol was the tallest of the children of Eru ever to live, over topping even the Elindils and the Turgons I'd say 8 foot or a bit over is a pretty good guess. If a Ranga is one stride and a stride is 3 feet 2 inches that is a very long stride.

Whomever strode like that must have been quite tall. Elendil is nicknamed the tall which suggests conspicuously different height whereas Turgon and Thingol may have just happened to be the tallest of a generally tall people rather than towering over their peers But this is my supposition not fact.

I'm not sure Thingol's height is actually given not that I recall anyway. As noted already Elendil was about 7'11", according to texts in Unfinished Tales, but seven feet tall as also noted according to a note dated According to Of Dwarves And Men anyway, 'Halfling' referred to: 'the normal height of men of Numenorean descent and of the Eldar especially those of Noldorin descent which appears to have been about seven of our feet.

And in a note describing Celeborn as a 'Linda of Valinor' that argument aside for now he was 'held by them to be tall, as his name indicated' 'Silver-tall' , but it was added the Teleri were in general somewhat less in build and stature than the Noldor.

OK 'somewhat less' in build in stature, but to my mind six foot four is quite notably shorter than seven feet -- especially for a Teler who was held by the Lindar to be tall and this tallness being reflected in his name as well.

If we raise Celeborn closer to the Noldor then perhaps we should raise Galadriel as well. Of course I'm juggling various unpublished texts to try and come up with something, and I'm not sure JRRT had arrived at something very definite on these things.

Tolkien did once write that Turgon was the tallest of the Children save Thingol revised Fall of Gondolin , but in a later text Shibboleth of Feanor he made Argon the tallest of the brothers.

Clearly since Tolkien never had the time to make his work consistent and what would we all do with our time if he had?!!!! I think it says somewhere UT? British guardsmen were traditionally sixfooters Enthralled by and covetous of the Silmaril, the Dwarves demanded the necklace, insisting that as a dwarven work it belonged to them. Thingol was unwilling to surrender the treasure and replied with an impertinent answer.

In their anger, the Dwarves attempted to slay him. After a long battle between Dwarves and Elves inside the city, the Dwarves were expelled. Two escaped to Nogrod and there told a false story of the conflict to their people, convincing them to march westward and sack Doriath. Later, with the help of certain treacherous Elves also possessed of the cursed treasure, Dwarves regained entrance past the Girdle. Thingol was lured out on a hunt with a small company of arms; he was ambushed by Dwarves in the woods, and was slain, allowing Menegroth to be taken and plundered.

Elu Thingol derives from the Sindarin Elu Sindacollo , meaning "Elu Greycloak", from thind or sinda "grey" and collo "cloak". Thingol underwent quite a bit of developmental changes. In some of the earlier writings, and in particular the drafts for The Hobbit, Thingol was said to be the leader of the Dark Elves, and was a Dark Elf himself.

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